Saturday, December 23, 2006

Stuck: clutch lever screw

Our minds are more powerful than our hands or arms. Thinking is a better option than hammering. Remember this mantra and you will not destroy parts unnecessarily.

The screw that holds the clutch lever would not come out for me. The nut came off very easily. I used PB Blaster several times a flat head screw driver twice, before beginning to strip the chrome threads. First, I contacted scooter shops and verified I could replace the part. I can. I then used two nuts on the screw to back in out. No go. I emailed for help on Scooter BBS forum and was told to gently tap it out with a hammer. I used my copperhead hammer (copper is softer than a lot of metal to the hammer gets dinged up, but the part doesn't) and freed the screw. But before I did this, I made sure to ask if there were any threads in the clutch housing to avoid stripping them. Two people wrote me and said "no, you're fine." When I got the screw out and looked inside, I saw threads. The next moring I checked the forum again and two people wrote me franticially and said "DON'T TAP! THERE ARE THREADS!!" I owned a drill bit set that is designed to remove stripped screws and did not even think to use it. Damn myself. Using pliers on the treaded to part of the screw to back it out would also be a bad idea as the stripped threads would move through the threaded clutch housing and destroy those threads to. The way of least resistance, not a hammer, is always the best. Stop. Ask a few different sources. Take your time. Relax about your problem and THINK it through. Now I have two damaged parts instead of one. I hope a metric tap and dye set will be able to save what little threads I have or I will need to heli-coil in some new threads or use a lock nut. What a drag. This mistake was easy to avoid and would have only cost me $2 (for the replacement screw) if I had done it correctly.

8 comments:

Paul B. said...

You can't really use just a screw. The screw is not suppose to pivot with the lever, but rather, the lever should pivot around the stationary screw. Over time, the inexpensive lever wears out instead of the expensive lever housing. Just a lock nut will still allow the screw to pivot thereby wearing out the round hole in the lever housing into an oval, trashing it (or an expensive TIG welding repair.)
Paul B.
'66 SS

Scooter Pooch said...

Thx Paul.

Hope that a tap/dye will clean up the threads & I will have enough threads to hold the screw in place. If not, I guess heli-coil may be the next best step?

Jeremy

Paul B. said...

Maybe, if you have a bit of thread left, you could use just a bit of Loctite,(the kind where you can still remove the screw if you want to) on that weak thread. I'll bet that would hold everything.

Paul B.

Scooter Pooch said...

It's blue locktite Paul.

The red hold its perm.

Great idea! Thx!

Jeremy

Palmog said...

If you are using something like the Nyloc, it is ok even if you stripped the thread. The original setup was a flat head nut so it should be locked by like double nut method.
-Palmog

Anonymous said...

There's a good lesson for you... there are a FEW people on the BBS who know what they are talking about. There are however, a lot of people who don't know much, who insist on giving other people advice. I wish people would just keep quiet on mechanical advice unless they really know what they are talking about.

As for the threads, yes, a tap will be a good thing to try. If not, helicoil is easy, and should solve your problem.

Paul
www.scooterlounge.com

Scooter Couple said...

AGREED Paul.

Be careful with advice received.

Jeremy

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